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Numbers 31:17-18 [KJV]

17 Now therefore kill every male among the little ones, and kill every woman that hath known man by lying with him.

18 But all the women children, that have not known a man by lying with him, keep alive for yourselves.

Photo: Numbers 31:17-18 [KJV]

17 Now therefore kill every male among the little ones, and kill every woman that hath known man by lying with him.

18 But all the women children, that have not known a man by lying with him, keep alive for yourselves.
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  • John Holborn In the same time era, the Assyrian king, Asherbanerpal, subdued a rebel Provence and brought the entire population to his capital city where the adults were forced to watch as their children were killed, skinned and their heads used to build a tower. The skins of the rebels were placed on the city walls and were said to cover the 12 square miles of the city walls. Horrible as the Bible may seem, this is only until one sees what the neighborhood was like in the day. Because you can’t judge the Bible without judging all of the other cultures also.
  • Bill Allyn So one is forced to wonder why anybody would trust a book provided by barbaric primitives from two millennia ago to provide any kind of moral foundation for modern life. It just doesn’t seem reasonable, at all!
  • Bill Allyn I guess if you’re saying that, by comparison, this is basically righteous shit… well, I’m just not buying that argument.
  • John Holborn Because it was heads and shoulders above the other cultural philosophies … Like the sadistic Assyrian culture’s. What I posted was just typical of the Assyrian Empire. Rome incorporated sadistic slaughter and is the REAL basis of our culture… remember? The Colosseum? When did the Jews ever have a mass murder machine like THAT right in the center of Jerusalem? That’s right … NEVER! So, do you really want to compare it with the sadistic ROMAN EMPIRE? … cuz u will loose.
  • Bill Allyn Sorry John, but fucking children isn’t “heads and shoulders” above ANYTHING. It just isn’t.
  • John Holborn The Arabs do the same thing… they got the Koran. Again, in those days ALL girls got married at 11-13 depending on when their mentral cycle happend… EVERY CULTURE FUCKED CHILDREN EVEN THE ROMANS… check it out.
  • John Holborn The point you seem to be in denial of is: once a female was menstruating they were not considered ‘children’ any more. Byt the standards of the time NO CHILDREN WERE FUCKED!!! … you are trying to judge thousands of years ago based on what You feel now. But, the other cultures werfe much much worse. No matter how you try to wiggle around it … IT’S THE TRUTH.
  • Bill Allyn Did every culture also bash children’s heads against the rocks? 

    Psalms 137:9 Happy shall he be, that taketh and dasheth thy little ones against the stones.

    The point you seem to be missing is that the bible is a horribly violent, barbaric, vicious book, and no amount of wriggling is going to change that.
  • Bill Allyn How can you defend this crap?
  • Joe Fortt greedy
  • John Holborn Am not defending anything … am concerned that you, a person who otherwise seems intelligent, is so amzainlyu lacing in knowledge and information on a subject you want to go on about!! 1. EVERY CULTURE BASHED CHILDREN’S HEADS AGAINST ROCKS!! And, it’s so frikin’ easy to prove it’s insulting that you brought it up! Don’t you know ANYTHING abut human history?! For gawd’s sake!! Jeez, this is going to be a massive shock to you … many human cultures (right up into the 20th century) exposed children they found undesirable (the Chinese are STILL exposing girl children, the Vikings exposed children as a test of their fitness, etc.)

    This is your conjecture, your fantasy. Please provide evidence, via peer-reviewed scientific articles.
  • John Holborn Did you know girls got married at puberty in North America 100 years ago? Yes, it’s true. The vast majority of women were married at a time we NOW consider ‘children’ (don’t take my word for it… google it!!) So by your personal standards OUR OWN GREAT-GRANDPARENTS FUCKED CHILDREN!! Jeez, man give it a break! You’re wrong. let it go.
  • John Holborn Just Google it.
  • Bill Allyn Dude, you’re a nutcase. You can go ahead and think it’s normal, if you like. I would not wish to be your family or friend, that’s for sure.
  • Patricia Macdonald Just because it happened, John, doesn’t make it right for heaven’s sake. We are supposed to be evolving.
  • Paul Apollonio I doubt John Holborn would comprehend, but for the benefit of Bill Allyn and others here, nothing in your premise John leads to your stated conclusion. 

    Your ancestors may have drilled holes in their heads to release evil spirits, doesn’t make it right. Does explain your thinking perhaps. Maybe you should…. Oh nevermind.
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  • Armani Hernandez I don’t see John stating those facts are desirable. He is stating they were normal in those days, not that he lived in those days and endorsed it. When people bring you facts you should respect them, unless you are faint-hearted, than I innerstand the weak responses out of emotional distortion.
  • Armani Hernandez Somehow I doubt this issue will be discussed in the “spontaneous” town hall format where all questions from the pre-screened audience have to be approved and agreed upon by the candidates in advance, and all talking point answers will be rehearsed.
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